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	<title>Comments on: Christianity and Science.</title>
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		<title>By: eykd</title>
		<link>http://newstalk.eykd.net/oldspeak/2005/10/31/christianity-and-science/#comment-1465</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 19:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://timebones.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;Mr. Ertle:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I've removed your comments, as they were off-topic and excessively long.  In the future, if you wish to mention your own material, please keep it related to the discussion, and provide a link instead of a full text.  Thank you.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;--David Eyk&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p><a href="http://timebones.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Mr. Ertle:</a></p>

<p>I&#8217;ve removed your comments, as they were off-topic and excessively long.  In the future, if you wish to mention your own material, please keep it related to the discussion, and provide a link instead of a full text.  Thank you.</p>

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		<title>By: shane</title>
		<link>http://newstalk.eykd.net/oldspeak/2005/10/31/christianity-and-science/#comment-1462</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 12:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;eyk,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;this is a great response and I think you're on the right trail.  the only thing that i see to object is how to understand the category 'story' in relation to science. i'm concerned to say that 'story' seems to limit science to a sort of social construction. of course, science is a social construction, but i'm inclined to a realist position that thinks science 'works' as a story because it does (more or less, hopefully more as our knowledge grows) give us a handle on reality.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;that's the only thing that i'm worried about. of course, science is in no way foundational for the christian faith, in the way the doctrine of the trinity is, but it might have important implications for the doctrine of creation and vice versa. i've been arguing about this with David Congdon and his uncle Mark for a while now over at his blog. if you are bored to tears and are trying to find something to do other than stick a nail in your eye, you can read the discussion at 
http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=11393723&#38;postID=112924501256960253 -- beware there are a ton of comments.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;shane&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>eyk,</p>

<p>this is a great response and I think you&#8217;re on the right trail.  the only thing that i see to object is how to understand the category &#8217;story&#8217; in relation to science. i&#8217;m concerned to say that &#8217;story&#8217; seems to limit science to a sort of social construction. of course, science is a social construction, but i&#8217;m inclined to a realist position that thinks science &#8216;works&#8217; as a story because it does (more or less, hopefully more as our knowledge grows) give us a handle on reality.</p>

<p>that&#8217;s the only thing that i&#8217;m worried about. of course, science is in no way foundational for the christian faith, in the way the doctrine of the trinity is, but it might have important implications for the doctrine of creation and vice versa. i&#8217;ve been arguing about this with David Congdon and his uncle Mark for a while now over at his blog. if you are bored to tears and are trying to find something to do other than stick a nail in your eye, you can read the discussion at 
<a href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=11393723&amp;postID=112924501256960253" rel="nofollow">http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=11393723&amp;postID=112924501256960253</a> &#8212; beware there are a ton of comments.</p>

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